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Yep, the About page is back! Instead of the original subsections, it is all condensed onto this one page. You can view or download most of the siterips, etc, but the Members Paysite will not be available for download.
Truth and Transparency vs Lies and Subterfuge:
First of all, I especially want to thank the growing number of great fans, many of whom have followed my sites for years, for reassuring me that I am not what Hannah says. I know it, you know it and hopefully one day she will realize it too. Who knows, maybe it was another intentional lie to hurt me. Either way, the damage is done and nothing will change until amends are made. However, I do not expect that amends will ever be made, especially when her most recent excuse was to say that she did not even remember what she had said! She is quite skilled at making things worse though, lol. At any rate, while I am used to the large number of callous people on the internet these days, it is indeed great to hear from the warmhearted fans!
Here is the [Proof That She Was Underage] for all of the disbelievers who demanded it. Here is the [Video Dates Proof], which confirms that she was in fact 16 - 17 years old at the time of filming. You can confirm many of the pictures too, using their EXIF data. Still, if you consider Hannah's content to actually be "CP", then you are a moron. However, it is a legal issue and people have the right to know. I provided the uncensored proof to some sites who requested it, but I do not consider personal ID to be public domain. Understandably, many people believed that I was lying, because surely there would be proof if she and I spoke, right? Nope! She refuses to confirm this publicly. She even let me wait around for months believing that she was [Quite Happy To Do] the small favor of a new sign picture. That lie was the straw that broke the camel's back for all of this. I have said ad nauseam how much honesty means to me and people were affecting my daily life over the issue. Apparently, that did not matter. That revelation let me know where I really stood and it led to even more revelations, which completely blew me away. Since I am now left with no simpler alternatives and people still do not believe me, fine, have at it. I will not let it slide to be called a liar when I am not.
To Hannah and her minions: My publishing of this information is basically a [PSA] to me. I am not pissed or playing games. Pissed is what I was when that person, who I still believe was Hannah, said that crap in chat last year (2015). I am not bothering to help with anything anymore after what has been said about me. This outcome should come as no surprise whatsoever. There are consequences to treating someone that way. It is a foreign concept to some, but I genuinely care about people I do not know, that is, up until the point where I learn that they are not a decent person. It is stating the obvious that, liars, deceivers and manipulators, are not decent people. I learned the hard way, long ago, not to treat those people with any civility. They do not deserve it and letting them walk all over you will teach them nothing. It does not make you the better person to allow it, it just makes you the prey for the predators.
The story behind the ID proof is quite the whopper too. The only reason I got it was due to me strong-arming her for it. Of course, she said that all I had to do was ask. Right, like how I had asked repeatedly five years ago? How I was told publicly "...dont you worry your pretty little head, its coming...". Or, like how I later did ask for the one new picture that I mentioned above? Oh no, never [Prove] [A Woman] [Wrong]! GASP! LOL! The ID proof was also originally part of our agreement in 2008 for me to close the site. When she did not follow through on that part, I put the site back up. Naturally, that was done to enforce the agreement. She never did follow through and later said that she [Understood] why I did it. Then we were all chummy and planning a new paysite in 2009. On top of that, Luke, the guy in the videos, had maintained that she was legal. He had plenty of opportunity to tell me too, since we also spoke a few times. So I of course assumed that the age claim was just a lie to get me to close the site, which is a very common tactic. Are you seeing the picture? For five years, neither Hannah, a so-called friend, or Luke, cared to prove that I was hosting underage porn! I have to ask, what kind of friend, or person in general, does not care if your life gets ruined by asinine laws? Eventually I resigned myself to the fact that I am just screwed either way now, whether I took the content down or not. At least now it cannot be held over anyone's head. Now back to why I finally got the proof. With governments getting more and more authoritarian, I decided to force the issue in late 2013. Unlike some of you reading this, I am not the threatening, forceful type. I am defensive, not offensive, so it took me around a month of debating it with myself to even do it. But again, I am like Karl, right Hannah? No words. I of course felt like total crap having to do it and she had no problem reinforcing that sentiment. Given what I know now, I am glad to have done it, because it forced the entire truth out into the light of day.
I was also never compensated, monetarily or otherwise, for the new [Paysite] that I [Built] for her in 2009. Multiple people, including Luke and her more recent ex, can [Confirm] that it was [Planned]. As you can see from the proof, I was willing to build the site for free. I wish I had been more clear at the time that the content was all the payment I needed, but sadly I was tired and only vaguely mentioned it. In fact, I was tired most of the time, due to the time difference and my own schedule. The old regulars know this well, as they dubbed me "the vampire" for the insanely long hours that I would stay up, in order to be around when Hannah or HB were online. It should be painfully obvious to anyone though, that I would not have freely built it without that new content incentive. What makes it worse is that she never even bothered to let me know that she no longer wanted to do it, or to offer some private content as compensation for all of my work, or even to just say a bloody "Thank You"! I had let it all slide though, since I was told repeatedly over the [Years] that it might still happen. In fact, the last mention of it still being possible was in [April 2015]. From what Hannah said, apparently some people cannot even understand this screenshot. Yes, she said she was not interested at the moment, which I was not even asking her about to begin with, but she refused to rule it out entirely by saying "I don't know"! That is the evidence of complete contradiction, because now I am told that it was never going to happen! Open your eyes people, lol! Everything I have been told, was a lie. As you can see, I had said in April that I would tell everyone that she was done, if she confirmed that she was not going to come back. She did not do that, she left it open! Yet now, I am called a Karl-like deceiver and scammer for supposedly [Leading People On]? WTF? To call me rude, insulting, immature, etc, after having been treated like that, is just rich. Really, it is just a shaming tactic to get me to not say any of this. That crap never worked on me. I am just not holding back anymore, now that I know that all of it was a lie. The more I think about what was said, the more infuriating all of this is. Custom web design averages $2,000+ on the low end and looking at the dates, I spent the better part of a month tirelessly designing and building it. So yes, Hannah, you damn well better believe that I am going to share this information with everyone. Saying all of that about me, plus denying the paysite? That is beyond the pale. 2017 Update: Now she does not deny the paysite, but actually said that I am just pissed that a woman can change their mind on something! The shaming tactics were back in full force too. This is the kind of stupid shit that does piss me off, since not only did I correct her on that insulting line of thinking before, but I have said right here what the bloody reason is!
Towards the end of the site, after she showed her true [Colors] with the chat that I mentioned above, I made the site private. Given all the shitty, ungrateful people bitching at me around the same time, I decided that I only wanted the true fans to have access. I also believe that the one person who stupidly tried to get psychological on me, in true feminazi fashion, was one of her friends. They desperately wanted me to mention the conversation to her, so I finally did once I questioned if she might actually be thinking something so incredibly stupid. I got my answer too, by her calling the person her own personal Batman! I retorted by saying that they were more like Bane. That took a while to sink in, because I did not want to believe it. Surely she knew better!? Nope. Anyways, the ungrateful people also failed to realize that I had kept running the site only as a kindness to the fans. I kept paying for it out of my own pocket and kept working on it for free, despite the headaches that other people were causing. That all ended with the above revelations. I had enough! So a small, one time, $5-6 donation towards my personal site, or a fansign from chicks, got the true fans inside. I of course thought the fansign idea was apt, since that was all I had asked Hannah for to get the asshats off my back. Hannah did not have access at this point, but she would have if amends had been made. After the final revelations a while later, emails were sent out to all Members to ask if they wanted a refund for their Donation. [Proof of refunds] Shortly after this, in late February 2016, the site closed permanently.
I also want to address the people, Hannah included, who think it was immoral of me to finally charge money for site access. For shame. Everyone deserves fair compensation for the work they do. If anything, I have a self-destructive habit of doing things for free, because I personally hate money. I prefer real trade. With fiat currency, one person will work their ass off, destroying their body and life, while barely scraping by, or still ending up destitute. Yet another person can have one singular moment of luck and be set for life. It is also a system that rewards the greedy and punishes the altruistic. That is why I did not charge Hannah for building the new paysite. The new content would have been the fair trade. I do not have a greedy bone in my body. That is why I will cut someone's lawn for $20, even though the going rate is $30-40. Sometimes I even get away with doing it for free, lol. That is why I had sold some of the content for the same price I paid for it. Then after clearing it with those people first, gave it freely to others. I enjoy making people happy. That is why I kept this site going for years, even though it was costing me money that I do not have to spare. That said, Star Trek is pure fantasy! I am a realist. I know I am in a small minority and that the majority of humans will never stop being driven by greed. But when people take advantage of my generosity, you will see my dark side. No, I do not mean that in a cheesy Star Wars way. As one good friend put it, more like Poe, or Nietzsche. "And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into you." But I digress. After being massively insulted by the only person in this situation whose opinion actually mattered to me, I had enough. You might be thinking, "You know there are ADs, right?", lol. Like most people, I also hate ADs. The file hosts, like Megaupload, used to pay for the work I put in, via their own ADs, but I also recommended using JDownloader, which would save you from ever seeing an AD. I tried making it as win-win as I could. But, if you are questioning the morality of something, direct sales are the MOST moral thing you can do! ADs sell the person's information for profit. You are not getting something for free. Most, if not all, of those companies are out to treat you like a commodity, some even infecting your machines with malicious software. Now, I did have a donation page setup, but after several years, only one person was kind enough to donate. I even tried a nagging overlay, but no dice there either. At that point I felt like shutting the site down. But instead, as I mentioned above, I made it a one time $6 cost to get in to the site and later dropped it to $5 when enough people had joined. I would have made it $5 to start with, but the transaction fees were about a dollar. I would have kept dropping it too if the numbers kept growing. No subscription, no extra cost. That is a drop in the bucket and quite fair. But I know, the view from your high horse must be splendid. In which case, you can kindly kiss my ass.
It is also not lost on me that saying all of this just provokes my haters. Mostly they just make me laugh. Like the guy on 4chan who called me a douchebag and said I designed like it was 1998. Found the beta! lol FYI, I intentionally design like that and it still takes plenty of work. Or the Brit who uploaded a [U Wot M8] GIF, thinking he was about to take control of the server with his hacking attempt. Good times! lol However, some of you will probably be happy to know that this whole thing has negatively affected my view of women. Particularly the millennials, which I am woefully a part of. I do not give two shits at this point. In typical millennial fashion, these women cry victim over their own actions, blaming anyone but themselves, all the while taking advantage of any man who believes them. They view everything a man says or does as some calculated, manipulative attack against them. It is like being extremely jaded, except in this case, it is a product of third wave feminist brainwashing. It is no wonder why so many men are [Giving Up On Women], even as friends. But, as soon as you call them out on their Bravo Sierra, their facade breaks down. As most of the regulars have plainly seen, I am not the typical porn dude who treats women like nothing but fuck toys. I know you would probably laugh too at the idea that I am out to manipulate her into returning. Many of you thought that I was wrong to just wait for her to come back. Some of you said as much and wanted the chance to prove it. Since nice sums of money were involved for her, I did pass those offers along to her and some of you had the chance to prove me wrong. It did not go anywhere. Apparently, she turns me not wanting to rob her of an opportunity, into me trying to manipulate her into returning. WTF? No, there was one guy who thought he should decide what was best for her and told me not to pass along those offers. He actually was manipulative and calculated. Ironically enough, she thought highly of him and considered me to be the shit one, lol. Yes, I just officially torched that bridge too. I have tried getting along with such people, but again, I have had enough. If those types change their ways one day, then great! But until then, I am not wasting my energy on people who treat me shitty and who have such low views. In the end, the [Manipulative Liars] say that I am the bad one! LOL! Some people really do not use their brains, because if I really was that type of person, then I would have also tried blackmailing her into giving me new stuff when I finally got the ID from her. I would not even blackmail Luke for his old stash, even though they both believe that I tried! I am really driven mad by how ignorant people are. Here I was, just sitting back in my usual zen state, hoping she decides to return some day and trying not to bug her about it! Also, since she made the false assumption that I was trying to blackmail people, she deemed my talking to her to be harassment and threatened to report me to the police! I was blown away at this point and really did not know what to think. Since everything turned out to be lies, I really had no idea if she was being serious. It was really worrying to be frank. So do you know what I did? I preemptively contacted the UK detective that she had told me about years ago, who tried helping her with Karl! I also actually had to ask Hannah to block me if she was serious, because she would not do it, which made me believe even more that she was just screwing with my head again. She finally did block me though and I never received a reply from the detective, so all is well...so to speak. I absolutely hate that it ended like that, but there is nothing I can do about that. Maybe some British person can explain to me why so many Brits think it is a positive personality trait to be two-faced?
Why did I put links to the definitions of some common words? Some people apparently have no understanding of them and I am educating them, lol. If you are a return visitor, you may have noticed that this page keeps growing in length. Every time I come back to read over this, I find more that I should have said, or should have clarified. Curse of being a perfectionist, lol. Thanks again to those who also point out some of the missing information!
Common Questions & Answers:
Q: What is Hannah's Real Name (surname)?
Old A: For privacy reasons, Hannah does not share her last name.
New A: People have found and shared it now. It is not common knowledge yet though. If you cannot find it, then do not expect me to tell you. Here are all the fake names/handles that people have created: Hannah Galore, Hannah Charlotte Galore, Hannah Stuart, Hannah Portman, Hannah Thompson, HannahBanks, HoneyBunchesOfHannah and Hannah the Hot Pocket.
Q: Does Hannah have a Facebook/Twitter account?
Old A: If she does, they are not public social accounts for us to interact with her. Here's Hannah's old MySpace page: [Profile] | [Blog]
New A: She does, people have found and shared them now too. Expect her to ignore you if you find and message her.
Q: Does Hannah have children?
Old A: Yes, she has two. Unless she initiates the discussion, please respect her privacy and do not discuss them in chat.
New note: The new chat has no such rules.
Q: Who was Karl to Hannah?
A: Just a one time shag on a wild night. Luke met him through the [Swinger AD]. Karl later ran his hannah-fans.com scam site, against Hannah's wishes.
Q: Do you know Hannah personally?
A: No, I live in the US, so I have only talked to Hannah.
Q: How old is all of this Hannah stuff?
A: 2004-2005 is when Hannah hit the web. The proof pic from 2008 is the most recent.
New note: The new nudes from 2016 and the regular clothed pics from 2007-2017 are now the most recent!
Q: Why did Hannah stop making content?
A: The split with Luke ended it and she moved on with her life.
New note: Moved on, aka, had kids. That does not stop plenty of porn chicks, but it does stop some.
Q: Who released what?
A: Luke released most of it. At first it was just him showing off his hot girlfriend, then some was revenge for the split. Karl and TotallyCrap.com released more that Luke had exclusively given them.
New note: Hannah said the bit about revenge, which I frankly do not believe. She was very much a willing participant, and according to the file dates and posts made by Luke, everything came out before they split up. If he wanted revenge, he has, or had, plenty more material.
Q: Hannah wants this site closed? (Proof pic: [December 23rd, 2008])
Old A: No, this demand no longer stands. See "The Return of Hannah" for more information.
However, she does wish that people would not plaster her all over the net. So respecting those wishes would be appreciated.
New A: Obviously this has changed again, or never really did, according to her. Who knows what the truth is, but every conversation I had since 2008 indicated that she was fine with the site and even considered coming back some day. For some reason, she completely changed her tune in 2015.
New note: Lets not forget my later PhotoShop joke versions: [Get Me Off] and [XXX-Ray 2000], which I made due to my annoyance at not having a replacement for the years after the demand no longer stood. The old picture caused much confusion and sometimes anger, since people did not read this information. Originally, I had used an old nude for the X-Ray picture, which meant that I could not add it back now. It is now updated and shared again, thanks to the newly leaked nudes!
Q: What is Hannah like?
Good question! She comes across as a very likeable, moderate, tolerant, fun girl, who listens and cares. In reality, she thinks the absolute worst of you and has no problem lying to your face. See [This Section] for more examples. Funny enough, that is also extremely fitting with the fact that she is a typical [Feminazi] and [Flaming] [Liberal]. [Another Older Study] Granted, her methods are different, but the results are the same. Had I known this, I would not have wasted my time trying to reason with her. You cannot reason with those types. By the way, whether you are a man or a woman, this is the [Proper View] of catcalling. Also, Libertarians are the real Liberals. Modern "Liberals" are all about taking other people's freedoms, because "they know better". That is the complete opposite of being liberal! They are Authoritarians, especially if they supported the Remain side. I took to discovering this about her, because of how shocked I was by her treatment of me. I had to make sense of it and her being a "Liberal", makes absolute sense now! Another hilarious thing is, when I thought she was more moderate and actually reasonable, based on what she said, I had sent her [This Mark Dice Video], knowing she would also get a kick out of the stereotypical "stupid Americans". I noticed that she even shared it with her one friend, when she [Posted it on Facebook]. What makes this so hilarious, is that neither of them caught on to the fact that myself and Mark Dice, were laughing and hanging our heads in shame over the sheer ignorance of these so-called Liberals! LOL! Mark's videos always highlight the stunning ignorance of your typical California "Liberal"! Knowing now that she is that exact type of "Liberal", just makes this whole thing pretty amusing. Hannah even tried telling me not to call her stupid, because of things that I have said in chat. For the record, it does not make you stupid just because you did something stupid. We all have our brain fart moments. So I was not actually saying that she was stupid in those comments. However, often times I will conflate ignorant with stupid, when I am in an insulting, bad mood. That said, I really try to hope that people are in fact just extremely ignorant and not actually stupid. Ignorance can be fixed, which is the point to all of this, but you cannot fix stupid. I guess time will determine which one it is. Of course, she always has her looks, which a lot of women are not afraid to acknowledge and use to their advantage. Sadly, she has rejected that type of thinking as "misogyny" and "objectification", in typical Feminazi fashion. I get the feeling from what she has said, that she uses bad past experiences to somehow negate that possibility. That is a victim mentality though, putting yourself in your own prison and demanding that others treat you as less than you were before.
Additional Info About this site:
I hope you enjoy your stay. While the adult content is gone, the site still offers a good history record. Thanks again to the original owner of Hannah-Amateur.com, who was kind enough to offer the domain to me!
New note: I sadly doubt that many fans will be enjoying their stay now, sorry. I know it bursts the fantasy bubble about Hannah to learn all of this, but you deserve to know the truth. She is still a naturally hot beauty, when not caked in makeup, so there is that! :P Seriously though, I am not the only one who cringes when they see those makeup pictures! It is as if she tries to [Look Bad], lol. Oh and yes I am aware now that such jokes are considered "Makeup Shaming". Next up from the mentally challenged feminazis will be "Tan Shaming", "Drunk Shaming", "Tattoo Shaming"...pretty much any criticism now is too much for their delicate little brains. It really is a shame that she hides her naturally beautiful face behind [Mimi-Level] layers of makeup. Yes, she can do what she wants, but it is still a real shame, like covering art in graffiti. I think it is safe to say that many of us really enjoyed her old pictures because of her natural beauty. I mean, those freckles! Oeeerrrr! Meeeoooow! And yeah, she had a little makeup on in some of those pictures, but it did not cover her beauty! Ah well, just such a shame all around.
2005-2011 - Hannah-Fans.com:[View Site] [Download Siterip]
Luke's 2008 NeoGAF Thread:[View Thread] [Download Archive]
2009 - Members Site:Here is the [Members Paysite] that Hannah keeps denying was ever planned and built.
Chat Archives:[2009-2010 - Cbox] [Download Archive] | [2011 - Cbox] | [2013-2015 - Chatango]
Fakes or not Hannah:These are either fakes that Karl made for hannah-fans, or random girls that people have mistaken for Hannah. Pictures:
This [Chick From Mexico] amazingly appears to be the spitting image of Hannah! When I showed Hannah this, she freaked out and hoped that they are photoshopped. As far as I can tell, they are not photoshopped and the face positions do not match any picture of Hannah that I have seen. Maybe someone else can find out more!
This is a recent find that I cannot prove, or disprove. I am going with it not being her, until someone proves otherwise. Someone even used a facial recognition site on it, but the results were mixed. It looks to be unsauceable, even with the almost invisible text on the picture.
Thanks to Tallymebanana for this intriguing find! The watermark had been removed, so it took a bit of investigating to find the full set and info. This chick is just a look-a-like named Kayla. For one, the body is not a match and the pics were taken in September of 2006. Another picture, with an open fridge in the background, led me to Canada food brands. That led me to HerSelfPics FAQ which states they are based in Canada and the girls that send these pics to them are also from local areas in Canada. I was able to find the full set from there.
This was one of the fake Hannah videos that Karl had on his scam site, in order to sucker more people into paying him money.
This was the second fake Hannah video that Karl used. I still cannot believe that Hannah actually compared me to this piece of shit!
This video, or clips of this video, have been falsely labeled as another Hannah video. Her name is Ann and there is also a picture set of her.
This Rumors and Lies section is mostly information from the old days.
Hannah Was Underage!
Update: This is no longer a rumor. It has been proven as fact. I know, it lacks common sense, but there you have it. The fan-made videos were just to private individuals and the site never did materialize. I also [Found Out] that Luke, Hannah and Karl were all well aware of the age issue at the time, but none of it was meant to hit the open web like it did. Afterwards, Luke just plain lied about it, with only Hannah telling the truth, back when she found this site in 2008. She failed to prove it at the time though, so I just figured that it was a tactic to get the site shut down. Needless to say, it was a very careless thing to do and none of them had ever taken responsibility by proving it. This also means that Karl was knowingly hosting underage content for years and that the "18 USC 2257 Notice" on his scam site was complete bullshit. It also does not make sense that if Hannah went to the police to get his site shut down, like she said she did, then why did she fail? The webhost would have certainly banned him and the police would have arrested him. Either she left the age issue out of it, which would be pretty messed up, but not surprising at this point, or she lied again.
Old text, for reference:
Basically, enjoy the vids-n-pics and don't worry, her stuff is all over the net, if it were really an issue then it would all be gone. While people have said she was underage in some of her videos, no proof has ever been given. Luke has also said she was 18 at the time. In fact her parents did discover her "on-line fun" and were quite pissed. That in and of itself is enough to wonder if they spread the underage rumor hoping to get her vids taken off-line. She and Luke both had many communications with the people at whatboyswant.com and from what Hannah said, only Luke was responsible for getting everything on totallycrap.com after their breakup. They both gave away and sold some of their vids & pics, indicating consent and by common sense, legal age.
There Are Over 20 Vids
Also a no. There is, to date, 18 vids of hannah. The 20+ pack that is floating around has one fake and several smaller, crummier duplicates of the hotel vid. If you get your vids here I can guarantee with 98% certainty that you are getting the best versions of her videos. No site stamps on these vids except for the hotel vid which was released on totallycrap.com. It looks like the original 90MB version was on Hannah-Fans.com before, whether it still is now is anyones guess.
Update: The 90mb version was not the original, it was an edited version of the original. Audio replaced by music and a few scenes were cut that Karl didn't like.
"Hannah-Fans.com Is Her Real Site!"
Update 2: The site is finally gone! No more scamming from Karl!
Update 1: Hannah-Fans is pretty much dead now. Safety tip: the fake video page has Malware in it.
The site is still partially there if you know the URL, so it still is not completely gone.
Old text, for reference:
Sorry to say...um no. That site is a pure rip-off. They charge you for the vids that already exist and there is absolutely no new content. I personally can say it is a scam and many people that have wasted their money have also been kind enough to voice the fact that it is a scam. Also, if it were her site and she did have new vids, then with all of the people that have paid for "her" site, someone would have leaked the new vids. No new vids...hmmm, me thinky it stinky, lol. If that is not enough for you, Hannah herself told us that it is run by Karl, the guy from the hotel threesome video!
If you need further proof, just bypass the membership login and find out! Yes, you can do it and no, it is not hard...at all, lol!
"I Know/Am Hannah"
There are SO many of these people out there which is how a lot of rumors have been started. Some people claim to be her, saying the vids were underage, she has aids, is pregnant, blah blah. No proof is ever given of course. Others claim to have seen her, or know her and also claim some of the above stuff. Again, no proof. Some even claim to have slept with her through her alledged involvement with freeukescorts.com/hannahlondon.htm, but again not one shred of proof. BUT, the real Hannah did find this site as you are probably already aware.
Other Sites To Stay Clear Of Since Hannah found this site and gave us the story of what really happened and what she's been doing, we now know for fact that freeukescorts.com/hannahlondon.htm(dead) AND webcamwhore.co.uk(dead) are both fakes.
History of UKHotty (aka Hannah's site) Text Copied From The Cached Pages Of UKHotty.com
May 21st, 2005 - First Problem
Okay kids.... here's the deal. This was going to be Hannah's official website. Maybe it still might be, that all comes down to Hannah getting in touch with me or not.
Who the fuck am I?
You can call me aStro3x... I have a couple sites at http://www.astroxxx.com/ and http://www.astro3x.com/ . I pick up girls, photograph them, build websites etc... basically, your typical porn geek.
I met Hannah and Luke through a forum and Luke asked me for help creating Hannah's website. I agreed and this site would have taken form as we said it would in April, except Luke wasn't able to provide me with enough content to go live with.
I heard all sorts of reasons and all could very well be true, I am not calling Luke or Hannah a liar. I just know at first, they lost the camera or something so they were asking for donations for new stuff, outfits etc. Many people from the board I was on donated and for those donations, they got little videos. Great huh? Yeah, well... not so great because a good deal of the people that donated didn't get their promised videos. Did Luke/Hannah rip them off? I don't think so... I'd like to give benefit of the doubt and assume that things just didn't go the way they'd planned.
As many of you know, Hannah recently was caught because some fuck face at her school saw her online, it got back to her parents or something. So then, Luke's computer dies or something and he tells us all that he'll be "back". Well, the time period he quoted has come and gone... but still no Luke.
Now I hear that Hannah dumped him or something because she felt he was holding her back.
I have no fucking idea what is true, what is not true because neither of them have responded to their emails I sent them.
So now what happens? Well, it's simple... I am giving Hannah and Luke to the end of May to contact me. They know how, they both have me on their MSN and they can also go to http://www.astroxxx.com/ and click contact and email my ass. It's not that fucking difficult.
If they don't contact me.... well, then I am forced to do something I don't want to do.
See, they sort of took money for videos they never created, so how can those people get their money back? Well, I'll post all the photos here as well as a bulletin board or shout out board or something... so people can voice their concerns, warn others etc.
I have heard many boards had Luke and Hannah posting asking for money.... so if you know of boards that this happened on, email me. (go to astroxxx.com, click contact etc).
Obviously I know of one site that I myself post on... so if you're reading this and you know me from your forum... don't email me telling me of that site. heh
I'm not trying to be an asshole, I am trying to get back the money for those that got fucked. We might not get it back, but hey... we'll be a thorn in their side until we do.
May 26th, 2005 - 5 Days Later
Well, it's been five days... and still no word from either Luke or Hannah. I have heard rumors that Hannah is setting up her own site or something, which would be great... we all want to see more of her! Thing is, it's the net and let's face it, we know these will prob. only be rumors.
I have received emails from many people, many forums. Some friends and other photographers that have worked hand in and with them. We all wish the best for both Luke and Hannah, regardless of their situation. No idea if Hannah broke with Luke, why etc but that's their business.
All I and others are trying to do now is recoup the losses from money that was collected for videos that have yet to materialize. Some videos were done, some... not so much. So Luke, if you're reading this, and I am more than certain you are... contact me man. There is still an easy way to fix all of this, but you need to step forward.
Hannah, if you're reading this... what's up? lol. Contact me or whatever, let me know what you wish me to do with your photos that Luke has sent me.
Now... will I be posting photos and videos of Hannah.... ummm... we're going to wait on that one for now. I don't want to hurt her in any way, and as of now, all I am out is the fee to register this domain (who cares).
Feel free to contact me if you wish, I'll be posting some reader email shortly... of course, without email addresses and on first name or initial basis so others can read what's being said, but people are still somewhat anonymous.
June 13th, 2005 - Hannah & Luke Split
Luke contacted us...sort of..... I was away from MSN and he messaged me saying:
I just checked UKhotty
I'm so fucking sorry
I've been a mess
Hannah left me for some chump who she has apparently 'fallen' in love with
So.... what is my response? Well Luke, I feel for ya man, but jesus.... you took money for videos that never happened. So now what happens? You going to refund that cash to the people you stiffed?
June 24th, 2005 - Lost Intentions
Luke contacted us again
This time he's informed me that Hannah has intentions of creating videos for all those that paid anything towards videos, plus possibly something a little extra, but it wasn't elaborated on as to what the 'extra' would or might be.
He also said Hannah wants to develop UKHotty in the near future and she'll be contacting me soon to discuss what we're supposed to do next. I hope this is true, but like all things online... I'll believe it when I see it. It's not personal, but it's easier to assume this won't happen that hold my breathe and hope it does. Hannah doesn't have a computer or digital camera right now I guess. I considered starting a fund to get her one, but truth is, we have no way to know she'll buy one. Sure, I can buy one and send it to her.... but will she use it? See what I mean? No idea as to what will happen. I guess I'll wait and watch, see if she contacts me or not.
Luke has informed me he will have nothing to do with her or the site pretty much from this point on. She's with someone else now, I can understand him wanting to distance himself from this... but hey, until those videos are supplied to those that paid for them, Luke is very much still involved, regardless of whether he wants to or not. Again, it's not personal bro.
August 20th, 2005 - Hannah who?
I have to admit, like you, I am a little disappointed by this whole disappearing thing Hannah has pulled on us. We were told she does want to do a site, and she'd come back... but has she? Nope. So seriously... wtf? Not even an email for her fans to say sorry, I changed my mind or sorry, I'm not ready yet? Seriously, how fucking hard is it?
So I figure fuck it, she was hot.... yes.... but we all know there are others out there as well right? I'll keep updating here and HOPEFULLY she'll come back and want to get naked for us or at least tease us. lol
The Return of Hannah:December 10th, 2008 - First Contact
I received an email from someone claiming to be Hannah. As many of you probably already know, a lot of people claim to be Hannah, so of course I wasn't believing it was her. To my amazement, it actually was her!
December 22th, 2008 - First Problem
Having not heard back yet, I emailed her again. With still no response, I decided to put the site back up. Ironically, I then received the first picture that day. (See picture: [Here]) The site came back down and she said she had to wait two weeks to get the ID. So, we wished each other a Merry Christmas and went on Holiday.
January 14th, 2009 - Second Problem
Two weeks passed, I sent an email, but she must have been busy. I waited 9 more days, now the 23rd of January, before sending a second email, but sadly, nothing. I decided to give her ample time since she had come through on the first part of our agreement.
February 22nd, 2009 - Two Months Later...
It had now been over 2 months since the site came down the second time, but I guess life must have been really busy for her. By this time I had found a lot more content to add to the site. So, after much sorting of duplicates and better quality versions of pictures, I decided to put the site back up. Six days later, she responded! Woo-Hoo! Initially she was upset, but later said she understood why I put the site back up and that it was ok that it wouldn't come back down until she came through with the rest of the proof. Since then it has been fairly relaxed as we wait, even with some casual joking from her and several other regular visitors.
September 13th, 2009 - The 2nd Return!
Hannah and her boyfriend, known in chat as HB, came back with great news! They were going to share some new pics and mentioned the possibility of a new site! Much to the frustration of everyone, things were delayed for two days since I wasn't on-line at the time all of this was happening in the chatbox. Don't get too excited though, after they shared three new pictures, two guys came on the chat and ruined everything by publicly pointing out how to get around the image protection I had set up. Hannah and HB didn't want the pictures being saved, but as some of you may be aware, that is pretty hard to achieve. Fortunately, a while back I had come up with a way to share a picture that prevented many of the methods to save the picture. I even had it tested on a forum I was with to make sure that I had considered everything that could be done. I also went searching again to see if there was anything I could add or update, then I showed it to them and said that it was as secure as possible. But unknown to us, thanks to newer changes in the only browser that I had allowed to access the pictures, one of those blocks could be bypassed. So the two guys told EVERYONE in chat how to get around it! Not only did they do that, but they started calling me a deceiving liar for saying they were secure! Ummm...I said "secure as possible"...ARG! The whole thing got tense and unfriendly fast as you can imagine. So, Hannah and HB wanted them removed and understandably, they decided not to share any more pictures. After all of that happened, they were still chatting and having a good time, especially after a generous contribution by maxflii to get the premium chatbox for better moderation against people like those two. But, they haven't been around much as of late. Just stopping by every once in a while to let us know they are still around, but just busy, busy. While this comeback was not a success, there is always hope for the future. The lesson learned here was that people will ignorantly ruin a good thing, so next time, regulate access!
I know some people find examples to be torture, because I am one of those people. So to those fellow people, don't click the link! lol
Only Click Here If You Really Want To See An Example! (These pics have been shared now.)
The poses in these 3 porn pictures are the closest matches I could find.
January 1st, 2011 - The End...For Now.
Page updated as of October 28th, 2013 in order to correct some false assumptions. :)
I had been avoiding writing up this whole situation since, well, why relive it? But, it may answer some of your questions. It all started after Hannah came into chat and said that she and HB broke up. Specific details are not required there, so I will leave it at that. From my perspective, normally when that happens between couples, that means the other person is not involved anymore. So since this site was made for Hannah, it made perfect sense to me that HB was not a part of it anymore, or the private chat that I had set up for them to contact me more directly. I also did not want the site interfering with their personal lives, which it definitely could have if they both showed up in the private chat after splitting. Everyone knows that is just asking for a fight.
Unfortunately, it all had the opposite effect. No good deed goes unpunished, right? I am not sure what all happened, but according to HB, he and Hannah had gotten back together. So he was quite upset with me, thinking I was trying to cut him out, "going behind his back" and whatnot. Apparently, this was due to me and a trusted friend having made some private offers to them in the past for new pics/vids. So it somehow turned into this elaborate conspiracy that I was plotting and scheming, trying to manipulate the situation to get new pics/vids! ARG! I managed to stay calm throughout his scandalous chat, which is a miracle for me, lol. Normally, I really have a short fuse when it comes to people accusing me of things like that. For me, what I say and do, that is all there is to it. There are no hidden agendas and/or ulterior motives. I guess I am quite old fashioned that way, lol. Hannah seemed fairly cool about it though and left on a positive note. However, HB has been in a foul, taunting mood with the few comments he has posted since then. I think he really hates me now, lol. No skin off my back!
I am also very aware that almost no one believes anyone's word anymore and that everything must have some hidden meaning or agenda. Especially if they say otherwise! Gasp! lol So I am sure some people will believe what they wish to. But, that is the truth of it, whether anyone believes it or not.
I had thought that the whole thing had put Hannah off of visiting the site, but that was not the case. :)
June 14th, 2013
This day marks the first email I sent to HB. As you are probably already aware, I was looking to get proof of Hannah's age. It had always been nagging at me, even though Luke insisted that she was 18 at the time. I finally decided to pursue it though, since it was just a totally unnecessary risk to take. Especially these days! Plus, I found that yet another site where Luke had originally posted (NTFU/snappher), was also claiming that she was in fact under 18 at the time. On the other hand, Hannah had already told us the truth in chat, back in 2008. Sadly, I must admit that I believed Luke over Hannah. She wanted the site shut down at the time, so I took that as a motive to play on the rumor and lie about it. Unfortunately, I was jaded and had come to expect that kind of thing from women. Also, as you may have already read, part of the original shutdown deal had included proof of age. Since that part never happened, I also mistakenly took that as confirmation. See how dangerous assumptions are? lol. Of course, HB never got back to me. It turns out that he could not care less, since he and Hannah were not together anymore. Plus, I am pretty sure that he hates me, lol. (see Jan '11 for reference)
July 21st, 2013
Follow up email sent to HB. Again, no response. Unknown to me, HB had recently split with Hannah and could not care less about what happened with her, or responding to my emails. He had previously admitted to receiving and not responding to emails, so this lack of reply on an important issue was totally unacceptable to me. More on that, later.
September 17th, 2013
By this point, I was fed up. Having regular emails ignored is one thing, but ignoring an issue which could really screw me over? I was not going to tolerate that. I do not believe in letting people walk all over you. I prefer to give back what I receive from people. Good people get my nice side, but abusers get my "do not fuck with me" side. It is the only way they will learn and it keeps you from getting used by assholes. For the record, I had put up with HB's very bad attitude, for everyone's sake. Maybe it would not have mattered, but people would rightly have cause to flame me if I had told him off for being a dick and caused them to leave. And as it turned out, he was the one pushing the new stuff. Which apparently is why he got so pissed at me for talking directly with Hannah about new stuff, during the last time they had split up. Well sorry dude, she is the star! Anyways, at that point, I sent the ultimatum email to HB. Either he got back to me, or the three new pictures would be released. I decided to do it in stages, revealing each picture a little more each day. That way they would still have time to reply back, while also knowing that I was not bluffing. I had made it clear that the pictures should not be shared everywhere though, unless people wanted to guarantee that there would never be anything new again. Sadly, people either missed that, or just did not care.
Sidenote: Unfortunately, I took too long to write this up and it looks like chatango's history only goes back about a year now. I miss the chat archiving from cbox! If anyone knows a way to get the history, let me know.
September 26th, 2013
I emailed Hannah one more time, letting her know that the time was almost up. Of course, that email was pointless. Hannah did not have access to that email anymore. Doh! Since the chat history is gone now, I cannot be sure on the timeline between now and October, but basically... Time ran out and each of the three pictures were released. After that, I started with the pictures that I had previously saved from her profile. At this point, everything was on the table, including a collection of unreleased pictures that someone had sold to me. Some people do not understand the need to keep these things off of the wide open web though and things went to hell pretty quick. It is pretty simple though, if you want any chance of seeing anything new from Hannah, then you do not go sharing the stuff with the world. Especially when that is exactly what she does not want to happen. Again, that was the whole problem with the new pictures before. There was going to be a lot more than those three pictures, but people ruined it by telling everyone how to bypass the restrictions on saving the pictures. (see Sep '09 for reference) Even if you do not care about respecting her wishes, the lost chance of any future material should be enough to stop you. Granted, at some point that will not be the case anymore. Eventually, she will be too old. Niche Granny Hannah? lol
October 22nd, 2013
I finally messaged Hannah more directly, via her private, personal online profile. In hindsight, I should have done that from the beginning, but I considered it to be far too intrusive, lol. I also do not use social networking sites and I am not used to people being so lax with email. My timing really sucks though, as she was on vacation and was greeted by the message on the 25th, right after she got back from her trip. Doh! Sorry about that Hannah! For the record, in spite of my HB inspired bad behavior, she was happy to help and is very forgiving. I frankly beat myself up more over it, lol. I promptly took the new pictures down that I had shared and told her not to worry about rushing to get me the ID proof.
November 19th, 2013
Hannah sent me the ID picture, a copy of her passport, confirming that she was in fact only 16 to 17 years old in the videos and pictures. I sadly proceeded to compare the dates in the files and started removing the content. I tend to have some dark humor though, so I did have some fun slapping Pedobear on everything, lol. As it turned out, everything, including the famous hotel video, was taken when she was under 18. You might be asking, "Why did they do underage porn then!". That is simple actually, she did not start out intending to do internet porn. At first, it was all just between her and Luke, boyfriend and girlfriend recording their sexy time, lol. This explains why the first official site was going to be non-nude, even though all of the other nude content had already been leaked across various sites by Luke.
At any rate, it was not intentional and frankly, Luke probably did not know about the overbearing (mostly
international) laws, until they started getting really popular. Thanks to newfound information, I can confirm that Luke, Hannah and Karl all knew
about the age being an issue, but they carried on anyways.
Obviously though, no one in their right mind should call her stuff CP. The laws are honestly downright retarded to be classifying a physically mature, very sexually active young woman like Hannah, with the likes of some innocent little kid. To make that comparison is just asinine. I think most people would agree too, so why do we still have these dumbass, poorly written laws?
November 5th, 2015
This is the day that the site went Members only. As the saying goes, I gave and I gave until I could not give anymore. I had a donation option added to the site for quite some time, but almost no one took advantage of it. As I mentioned earlier, some people were also causing me grief with keeping the site up and running, DoS attacks and such, so I had enough. Not to mention Hannah having really, really let me down on the sign picture, proving to me that she did not appreciate everything that I have done for her. That revelation would not have hurt so much if we had not gotten to know each other over the last couple of years. The archived Chatango chat has more of what happened, but here is a summary.
I was quite down from learning that she was not appreciative and was doing some much needed venting in the chat. This must have made Hannah mad, because she then shows up in the chat, for the first time in freakin' years, pretending to be some random guy and proceeds to put me down even more! There is yet another let down. She has also told me several times that she was going to come on chat, never to do it. But, now she comes on, just to kick me while I am down?! What the bloody hell ass fuck, I say. lol I have a short fuse and she knows this, so it really should not have been a shock when I temporarily banned her. It was either that, or I end up blowing up on her. Now despite personally wanting to just nuke the site into oblivion at this point, I still wanted Hannah's fans to be able to have the history. I now also really wanted some compensation for everything I have done. Enter the Members Only site! Granted, money will never truly compensate, but it will at least make up for the money I have lost in running this site. And no, Hannah has not been given access yet. In fact, she will not speak to me at all these days. I hope she will someday, because I do not want to leave things like that with her. I could have continued ignoring the problem and kept the relationship as it was, but I just could not handle it anymore. I am not happy with how it played out, but them's the breaks, as they say.
I assume she is also mad that I have even mentioned this stuff to the public. I guess I should just internalize everything until I explode, drink myself to death, [Or Something]. Let me explain my [Massive Disappointment] here and to hell with [The Judgmental People].
I go by actions, not words, just as the great quote said on the main page. "Thankfulness is the beginning of gratitude. Gratitude is the completion of thankfulness. Thankfulness may consist merely of words. Gratitude is shown in acts." - Henri-Frédéric Amiel. If I feel that someone is not grateful, or appreciative for the things I do for them, or even worse, I feel like I am being used, then they are not going to get my nice side. Period. I am not going to even care about the excuses they give me, because they are not caring about me either. With how jaded I have gotten, pretty much everyone starts in the negative with me and has to work their way into the positive by their actions. I would say women were my exception, except for a period of time after my [Ex Fiancée]. I just love women, they are my blind spot, my achilles heel. I tend to let the good ones, [Not These Kind], start out on a positive note still, but after this, no more!
Now with Hannah, most guys want me to push and push for her to make a come back. That is not my way though. I also know that she and I are too much alike that way. If she does not want to do something, then no amount of pleading or money is going to get you anywhere. It actually just makes us resist that much more! Tell me I am wrong, girl! I think she assumes that means I do not have the same interest though. Well to hell with that thinking! lol I most certainly do! I would absolutely love to see more! Even after everything, especially after everything!
So ok, fair enough on not wanting to do new stuff now, but what about me personally? I could not even get a [Damn Picture] for the site, even though she said, most sincerely, that she would. Not even after all the things I have done, like building her a new site for free. The only compensation I desired was to see the new stuff! We discussed it plenty in private, sometimes just between her and I, no BF around. Then they back out without a word to me about it. Just, WTF? Not even an, "Ok, we do not want to do it, but here is something for your time and effort."? Nope! Now there was an excuse given when I [Mentioned This Later], which I am not going to repeat, since for one it was said in private, but two, it was utter crap and we both know it! Well that is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to lack of gratitude. I am glad I did not buy them the nice HD camera that another inner circle fan did, in the hopes of seeing new stuff. Nope, all we got was the [Massive Tease] that they shot a ton of stuff on it! Tease after tease, let down after let down, and she wonders why I have had enough? I could write paragraphs more on all the other let downs, but I am not going to. It just upsets me more. Now, my cares are in the trash. I would rather things not be that way, but that is where she has chosen to leave them.
There is another reason for my getting so upset too. I suspected from the very beginning that she viewed me poorly for some reason. It became pretty clear to me, when she treated a guy from the site chat quite differently. When she and I finally did get to talking later, I confronted her about it directly. I even asked her if I should just quit bothering, due to her lack of replying back to messages. Obviously, it is not fun to talk to someone who you feel is being very fake with you. Her very friendly, personal talk was in contradiction with her actions. She had the opportunity right there to be honest, confirm my instincts and for us to part ways. Instead, she made the effort to convince me otherwise and even encouraged me to keep messaging her until she replied! So when she tells me later that she has indeed viewed me horribly all along, then I do not think that I need to explain why that level of deception was incredibly hurtful. But, apparently she still does not get it and grinds salt into the wound even more by laying the blame elsewhere.
Now I can foresee one excuse too, that I was not given anything, because I would just end up sharing it like I have done a
couple of times recently. Right? No. All of those let downs, teases and excuses are precisely why I have given up
caring and am sharing stuff internally now. Also, I know her real fans can be trusted not to share it publicly. News flash, I
have already tested that theory secretly for over two years with a private site! I wanted to be ready to go the next
time, since according to her, the idea was never off the table! Guess that was a pointless exercise, huh? "What private
site?" you ask. Well, do not bother asking, because
at this point, I do not foresee letting any new people in it is
December 26th - 29th, 2016
Oh the absolutely awesome Christmas and New Year that this was, lol! An [Anonymous User] showed up in chat on the 26th and made a nice little build up over the next few days to their dump of new Hannah nudes! As you can see from the chat, I was quite happy and just as willing to work with the leaker as I had been with Hannah in the past. They did not care what happened with the nudes, so online they went! On a side note, given my off-the-cuff comment about her and animals, I think it is only fair to point out that I often feel just as misanthropic. The difference is, it is because of people like her. Now obviously, at this point I do not care what Hannah wants. She screwed herself over as is usual. The general public only has these nudes because she screwed people over on a personal level. While no leak could ever make things up to me on that personal level, this was quite a welcomed surprise! Late 2009 to late 2016, I did not dub her the "Queen of Blue Balls" for nothing, lol! Of course, the rest of you were not teased by her during the majority of that time! While that is obviously not the reason for my upset with her, it certainly did add to it. I mean, how cruel and fucked up do you have to be to lead someone on for years? Especially when you admit to having had no intention of ever following through. Anyways...yea nudes!
This update is also a good time to explain some things. I hear complaints from feminists that "Revenge Porn" is a matter of enforcing consent. This is another logic fail. If you want to make it about consent, then let's not be hypocrites. Every single feminist who publicly shares private sexting screenshots without the man's consent, is now also a criminal. Every single person who shares a funny, embarrassing, shocking, etc, screenshot of a private conversation without that person's consent, is now a criminal. Damnyouautocorrect.com is now an illegal site! Not to mention how archive.org has backed up anything online for decades without consent. Every single thing captured in public is now also illegal, since people are already crying "You do not have my consent!" when they have been caught on camera doing something noteworthy. Most memes are now illegal too. Are you seeing the idiocy here yet? Most rational people understand that when you interact with a digital medium, that is where your control of consent ends. That information is no longer a part of you and anything can and will happen with it, regardless of any law. Decades later, the entertainment industry has still not learned this! Even your own government does not give a rats ass about your consent and spies on every intimate, digitally accessible detail of your life! So no, the root of this is all about respect. I will not get into all of the problems in today's society that have led to this complete lack of respect, as that would take several lengthy paragraphs. But in this case, when a person completely disrespects, or lies to, manipulates, tries to control, shames either privately or publicly, or is maliciously hurting another person, that person will lose all respect for the offender and they will justifiably retaliate. I say "person", because even [Women] are [Leaking] nudes! If you expect respect after having done any of those things, then you are mental! Information spreads when you treat people like shit. To also further attack and punish that [Victimized] person, is just absurd and even more wrong!
Now let's address the term "Revenge Porn". Revenge: "the action of inflicting hurt or harm on someone for an injury or wrong suffered at their hands.". Notice the part in bold? By calling it "Revenge", you are in fact admitting that you initiated a wrongdoing on said individual and that they are simply getting retribution for your actions! Again, your answer is to further inflict harm on the individual, leaving them even further victimized? If that is not the case though, if you did nothing wrong to begin with, then guess what? It is not revenge!
Since I mentioned the feminists whining about men sexting, aka sending "unsolicited dick pics", let's address that! Role reversal time! No straight man on this planet is going to bemoan receiving unsolicited pussy or tit pics from random women! In fact, that is laughable! We would be like, "Oh yeah man, you have it soooo rough seeing all of those titties and pussies all day, are you even straight?", LOL! So as usual, feminists are actually advocating for forcing men to accept a woman's view. In other words, men's view is wrong, women's view is right and should be socially, or lawfully enforced. Typical, brain-damaged feminist thinking that the sexes are in fact equal in every way and that anything they disagree with, is just more "vile misogyny". On the other hand, women who have their head on straight, just accept men for being men. But sure, continue your feminist idiocy, trying to force men to think and behave like women! It is doing wonders for destroying the species, what with men giving up on women entirely, relationships and marriages going down the toilet and the birthrates spiraling downwards! Bravo! The [Elitist Social Engineers] are so proud of you for accepting their conditioning without question! [Georgia Guidestones], here we come! Woo-hoo!!! HA! Even more funny, is the feminist hypocrisy that I mentioned above. I have seen feminazis advocating for making it a crime to send dick pics and many saying to shame the men by sending the pics to their Mothers! Not only is that breaching the consent that they cheerlead for, but they are actually so brain-damaged as to say that if you would not send or say something to your Mom, then it should not be sent to others, lol! I hope their private sexting conversations and nudes get sent to their Mothers too. Oh wait, some guys actually do that and the same feminazis cry bloody murder, LOL!
All of this is summed up in the dystopian B-movie comedy, [Cherry 2000]. In a world that requires consent contracts and lawyers for having sex, that movie sums up the end result of feminism quite nicely. And yes, while its intent was to show radical feminism versus feminism versus male chauvinism, you can say that it is really feminism aka female chauvinism versus basic human rights versus male chauvinism, because basic human rights is what the original women's rights activists were aiming for, before they became an established chauvinist/misandrist ideology called Feminism. So it is a movie for both feminists and MGTOWs.
Lastly, if you think that there are not very easy ways around those silly laws, then you are very dense. I can think of several right off the top of my head! It can only work when the people are ignorant of the law. I also crack up when reading the bad analogies that these people make when trying to defend their illogical position. [Personal Responsibility] is apparently an incomprehensible thing to them. We should all just ignore common sense and do whatever we feel like, lol. If you feel like walking in the street, then just do it. It is totally the responsibility of the person in the car to stop on a dime and not kill you, LOL! After all, it is offensive to suggest that it is your fault for doing something so obviously careless to begin with! Oh right! The entitled generation! I forgot, silly me. A funny one was comparing it to being robbed by someone you trust to look after your place while you are gone. There is so much wrong with that analogy, but clearly the trust is past tense in the case of this porn, FAIL! This generation has clearly never learned any critical thinking skills, lol.
January 23rd, 2017
This is the day that Hannah finally contacted me again, in regards to the release of the new nudes. I know that she knew about it well before then though. Now, did she have some kind of realization that what she had said and done had led to this happening? That, "Wow, I must have actually really hurt and offended him for him to not care about doing this!" Nope! Instead, she went with furthering the stupidity and aggravating me some more with an invalid [Copyright Notice] filled with extra flavors of blatant bullshit! Not only did she do that, but she contacted me yet again on an account that I have quit using for email, which I had informed her about the last time she hurled accusations on that email. I had even setup some filters on it, to send auto-replies and auto-delete the emails, but unfortunately the auto-reply was not working. I did happen to see the email in the trash anyways though, when I went to check the account for missing chat messages. I mention this, since on one of her email attempts, I got to see another couple of bullshit accusatory replies that she had sent around my Birthday! I am glad that I had not seen those! Anyways, even if I gave a damn about copyrights, which I do not in the least, it was absolutely the wrong approach. Being that formally cold, and throwing in all that bullshit, will only get you a fighting response from me. I even ignored it completely, which is extremely rare for me to do, until a couple of days later when she finally used the right email. Funny enough, part of the ridiculous crap was removed from the [Second Attempt]. I flat out told her that we both have stubborn, strong wills and that if we kept playing chicken like this to see who swerves first, then we would both end in a bloody wreck of carnage. That statement of logic fell on deaf ears though.
On a funny, related note, I had also previously blocked her on my new email, since I was quite tired of her hostility and the stress it was causing. That explains why she later started only replying back to me on some other bogus email she made, even though I was replying back to the one that I had blocked. I simply forgot that I had blocked it about a year ago, doh! I even asked her about it, but she apparently could not bother to tell me that her replies were being rejected, lol. I am pretty sure she thinks that I am always screwing with her when that kind of stuff happens, which says more about her than me.
The 23rd is also the day that I was contacted by someone who claimed to know her and who gave me some proof in the form of a facebook Friends screenshot and a few private facebook pictures. I still figure that they were Hannah though, for several reasons. I mentioned to them that I thought it was odd that Hannah had not contacted me yet about taking down the new nudes. Then she does, that very same day. Also, they had the same tells as Hannah. There are certain things she says that are quite unique. I have never heard them from anyone else. They also contacted me directly and asked if that email was still good. She would not have known this, but virtually no one contacts me directly on that email, unless they already know it. It is much easier to use the contact form. Another telling thing, is that there was a lot of lying going on. According to her, they told her that I already had the private pictures and had described the pictures to them before they sent them as confirmation. Now that sounds like something that someone would say to cover their own ass, but why even bother when they were supposedly contacting her anonymously to begin with? Completely unnecessary lying is certainly a Hannah trait though! They asked me for her email too, but all I was comfortable giving them was the public Google+ profile for that email. Normally, I will not even give that out, but they clearly already knew her somehow. I just do not give out people's email addresses without their permission. The next thing I know, they are supposedly emailing her. I do not see how that was possible at all. I found out that Google had added the ability to email someone in Gmail by typing their name and picking their Google+ profile, but I also confirmed that Google removed that intrusive feature in Oct/Nov of 2016. Supposedly, she asks them if I gave them her email and uses my first name. They said that she never used my username when trying to figure out who it was. That is quite odd, since practically no one even knows my first name! Oh and yes, my knee-jerk reaction to her asking that, was to suggest that they lie, so she did not flip out. However, I then suggested to just say that they did not know who that was, which was true. Sometimes you just have to ask me the right question, otherwise I might get tricky like that, lol. If you never think about lying, then you are not human. When I was growing up, my problem was lying to protect myself. I try very hard not to do that anymore and it is largely why I hate lying so much now. Anyways, she also tells me that according to them, I told them that she was an escort! (I will get a screenshot up of that email at some point too. Not fond of reading through them again.) That is a total lie and as usual, I was happy to prove it with [Screenshots] of the conversation. She claimed that they provided screenshots to the contrary, which can only be fakes if they really did. She never wanted to see mine, even though I repeatedly offered. She knows very well about me providing her proof and she has asked for it before, so the entire thing felt like her just screwing with me. Also, I documented how they were often on and off of xhamster around the same time. They both have also not been back online since. They both were asking the same questions about who the leaker was, etc. Also, when people contact me, nothing is ever vague. One of my tip offs that the person is probably her, is that they remain completely mysterious and vague. Like when I was adding people to the old, hidden section of the site, I never had any problem being able to verify them in one way or another. But, these few people with Hannah-tells? Nothing is verifiable. So I do mess with them a bit, in order to expose them, lol. Also like Hannah, they could not manage anything even remotely technical, like downloading the new archive from the multiup site. However, they somehow managed to find that email of mine and know something pretty obscure about Gmail that even I did not know? Uh-huh, sure. They were both also trying to tie me and ironhide78 together as the same person, lol. That is something that she has asked me before too, under another documented fake account. I really enjoy leaving her twisting in the wind on that one though, given the proven fake bullshit that she has pulled on me, but still refused to admit. Anyways, there is probably more that I am forgetting about this, but this has gotten long enough already!
Speaking of people screwing around, Hannah also claimed that 50+ people have told her that I gave them her information. I can only assume that she is lying yet again, or that someone is impersonating me. Although, no one has ever contacted me to thank me, or carry on some conversation that they thought they had with me, so I can only assume that this is a lie. I have never seen any proof of this and I doubt I ever will. She also tried laying on the guilt really thick by saying that I am trying to ruin her life, cause her stress, etc by putting all of this information on the site and spreading the new nudes around. For one thing, I simply do not believe her, but that is not my intention at all. If she constantly did not deny that she did anything wrong, then I would not be exposing all of this. If she stopped making up bullshit reasons for me being upset, then I would not feel the need to lay all of this out. In truth, I really have no idea how saying any of this has actually affected her, but I have not seen any indication that any of it has affected her at all. Words by themselves do not mean squat. When someone is truly affected by something, they take action. Clearly everyone can tell that she has affected me with all of it, because I took action by spilling all of this. But the only time that I have seen any actual action from her, is when she tried getting the new nudes taken down. So apparently that is the only thing that has actually affected her. If she has been honest though, then she must think me to be horrible for dismissing what she says. That is the problem though with liars. You cannot take anything they say as being true. She could tell me that she tried slitting her wrists over it and I would not even blink. She is the [Boy Who Cried Wolf].
That complete inability to believe anything she says, is largely why I requested new nudes. She can tell me that she has changed now, blah blah, but I am not going to believe it. Yes, she changed so much, that now we have new nudes, lol! Plus as I have said, I knew it would be a big deal for her to share them with me, so I could not think of anything better that would prove her sincerity. It would prove 100% that she was sorry and did not mean the things she said before, about how she "really" felt for all of this time. I also did not really expect her to do it, because I think that truly is how she feels now. If she did not feel that way, then she would have been open to doing it, even if it would mean making an exception for me. If she actually regretted leading me on for years, when she had no intention of ever doing it, then she would feel obligated to send me something now. It is the least she could do, especially after the paysite. At least, that is how good hearted people work when they realize how badly they screwed up. As I told her, that was the test all along, to which she scoffed at. She also repeatedly said that my request for nudes was blackmail. She kept assigning threats to it that did not exist. Simply put, if she told me that she would do it, but only because she felt like she had to, then I would turn her down. However, it is true that under UK laws on blackmail, I could demand it from her since I deem it to be restitution. That is not considered blackmail. I even told her that, since she was stuck on it like a broken record. However, that is not what I want at all. As I have stated multiple times, it was about her taking a real action that I can actually believe, showing that she was actually sorry. And of course I want them too, given all of her teasing over the years. Win win. At that point I would believe her that she was sorry and I would close this all down. In her mind though, no matter what I said, it was basically "I do that and you take it down?", aka blackmail. Heh... Oddly enough though, she said that she was willing to pay me for the paysite to make amends that way. Somehow that did not equal blackmail to her, lol. I turned that down, because it is cold and impersonal, completely meaningless to me. Which is funny that she would do that, since she was also completely put off by guys just throwing money at her, as if she was a piece of meat to be bought. Another example of her assigning threats to what I say, was her wanting confirmation that if she did not do it, then would I keep spreading the new nudes around. Will I keep posting them around? Who knows. When the mood strikes me, sure. Why? It is not because I am trying to force Hannah to do anything, but as she did rightly say, I just do not care what hassle it causes her. After what she has said and done, without remorse, why the hell would I care? I used to care, that much should be quite obvious. That is what she does not comprehend. I have learned to switch off and not care about people who have proven to me that they do not care about me either. As I have said many times, I will treat you the same as you treat me. Now, you could say, "Yeah you are just being clever and if she lied to you, saying that she wanted to do it now, then you would go for it, because you got your way.". No, do you really think that I could not tell if she was not being sincere? That is the kind of thing that she would think about me though, which is why I mention it.
May 1st, 2017
This site will very likely never completely close, since Hannah has an incredibly warped view of me and she will never make up for the things that she has said about me. In fact, she just keeps adding to the list of horrible things that she has said! It also does not help to hate on someone one minute, then turn around and pretend to be all nice again the next minute. It just shows how [Fake And Manipulative] you are. She even offered to add me to her social media, if I would just sellout the one guy who shared some private pictures with me! Wow! I guess that would appeal to the beta cucks out there, but I find that to be quite offensive, despicable and pathetic. After I blew off her fake nice attempt, she claimed that she was trying to find common ground to build on. I am sorry girl, but that ship sailed after everything you have said and done. Making amends with me is about proving to me that you are actually sorry and did not mean all of it. However, since she clearly has no remorse for all of it, I never want to be her friend. Contrary to what she thinks are the possible reasons for me to be doing all of this, I do not fancy her, nor do I hate her. After everything, the only thing I have left now is the physical attraction to her. She blew the rest, the admiration, respect and friendship. If I hated her, then I would not keep giving her chances to make up, or have kept tolerating her berating me. It is true that we share a few things in common, that is what drew me to her over our years of talking, but that means nothing to me when someone does as she did. I am sure we have things in common with serial killers too, but that does not mean we can get along, lol. The best she can hope for is to make amends with me, then we both part ways. I do not keep superficial friends. I will talk to people on a superficial level, out of politeness and tolerance, but never mistake that for friendship.
It is quite sad how she turned her best ally against her. I used to naively be on her side, then she shattered the false reality that she had created over our years of interactions and it has all gone to hell from there. Of course it is a middle finger to her to keep this site up and that will only ever change when she makes up for everything she has done. You reap what you sow. You get back what you give. Cause and effect. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That is what this is primarily about! No amount of warped vilification of me will ever change that!
As I said before though, I do not expect her to ever make amends with me. Her response was, "What is in it for me?". That might shock you, but it is exactly what I have come to expect from her, pure self interest with no regard for the other person. News flash! Making up to someone is about THEM, not YOU. She also constantly tries to attach her own meaning to things. I have laid all of this out on here for her and everyone to read and understand, yet she will still pull some very stupid and insulting shit, like saying that I am only this upset with her for not sending me nudes and that I should get help! If that is your take away from all of this, then I cannot help you to understand and I am done trying.
December 1st, 2017
I wanted to mention the person who chatted with me for a bit on here. I would not be surprised if they are one of her friends too, since they were subtlety defending her. They implied that I am being narcissistic to tell someone the truth when it is hurtful. I think they meant self-centered, but it disgusts me how people will actually try to apply something negative to being honest. Wait, who is known as the "Father of lies" again? There is a reason that lying is associated with evil. It is actually far more self-centered to lie. The truth might hurt now, but a lie will compound the offense and will usually destroy someone when they find out. Maybe you are very lucky and get away with lying, but it is like one of those random old land mines that was placed during a war. You never know when someone might step on it. There are reasons that these words of wisdom exist: "The truth won't stay buried forever.", "The truth will set you free." and the most important, "No one believes a liar, even when he tells the truth". As I have said, that last one is where I am with Hannah now. By the way, Hannah has also called me a narcissist, which is quite hilarious coming from her. I know myself well, but [This Test Result], from [Here], pretty well re-affirmed what I already knew. Echoism: Yep, I have a bad habit of putting others first and dropping anything that I am doing to help them. I have actually been trying to lessen this, since it causes me to not get things done that need to be done. Healthy Narcissism: This actually would have been a little too high in the past, but I have improved here and it is why I am not afraid to voice my opinion anymore. Extreme Narcissism: This is the one that I am being accused of and as I expected, it is quite low. A little less outgoing? Try total hermit who has to be forced to socialize, lol! Hannah does not get it that the things she said about me, are why I am forcing myself out of my comfort zone to say all of this. I would much rather not be here explaining any of this, but I just cannot stand for having those things said about me and to be be treated that way. Anyways, back to lying. This person also seemed to be conflating lying with secrets. A secret does not involve lying, unless you end up confronted by someone finding out, or being suspicious and they are asking you for confirmation. That said, secrets are quite problematic too and only some are morally acceptable. It was also said that someone might be lying because they are afraid of what the other person will do with that information. Yep, self-centered. You are more concerned with yourself, than with how your lie will affect the other person. I think that Hannah justified it by deeming me to be a "vile" person. Also, blatant, habitual lying is what immature children do. Mature people try very hard not to lie, because they understand the harm that is causes to themselves and others.
I thought I would add this section since Hannah has repeatedly tried to claim the moral high ground and shame me into submission for being so "vile". So for trying that on me, I am going to expose her rampant hypocrisy. The first, most obvious, and already extensively covered example, is her being a manipulative, habitual liar. Those type of people are on the bottom rungs of morality. If you are that type of person, and you try to put me down, then depending on my mood, I am either going to look at you with a shocked "What the fuck?" look, or simply start laughing. You might as well tell me something like, "Hey, I am a murderer, but at least I do not steal!" LOL!
Next, in our latest talks, she asked me what I wanted. Naturally, I told her that I wanted to see more of her. Not only did she strangely tell me that I had more than enough new stuff, as if that were even possible, but she also told me to get a life. Her ex has done the same. What they are actually saying here, is for me to get a woman, because that means I will not want nudes of her. Yes, given her reaction and things she said, she quite literally finds you disgusting if you are wanting porn of her, when either of you are in a relationship! I know that many of her fans are in relationships, plus that completely contradicts her past, so she must really loathe her old self then. Wanting that stuff, is apparently only for "single losers who need to get a life". Quoted for being a false statement, not a direct quote. Now she clearly still has no issue with porn, so this attitude about it is quite hypocritical! Not to mention, quite insulting for all of you fans who are in relationships! I would expect this view from say, a morality-minded, prudish type of Christian, but certainly not from Hannah! As I told her, I did not realize that I was talking to a Nun now, lol. Now do not misunderstand, I do have my own views on porn that are pretty conservative, but I am also not here to tell you how to live and pass judgment on you, like she clearly does. I would be a total hypocrite if I did do that! I am perfectly open to telling you my views if you ask me about them, but otherwise I just do not mention them, since people get so defensive and think that I am trying to tell them how to live. Anyways, you could say that maybe this was another one of her lies, knowing that I am more conservative, hoping to manipulate me by making me feel ashamed and to get me to give up, but she seemed very, very sincere and adamant about that being how she felt now.
Side note: Speaking of being single, it is funny how people make assumptions about that. After all of this stuff happened with her, I noticed a sudden push to get me onto those "Incel" boards and the like. I had never even heard of such a thing, but then I do intentionally avoid much of the internet. Maybe that was just a coincidence and those people sought me out, because I seemed to relate to them. No, I am just one of those rare HSP people, like [Alanis Morissette]. You might remember her [One Song] on Hannah's cowgirl video, where she is getting turned on from watching herself bounce up and down on Luke's cock. So it made me wonder, given how Hannah very ignorantly told me that I needed to get help, because "I am so upset over her not giving me nudes". I almost told her that she was the one who needed to get help, if that is why she thought I was so upset! I mean seriously, I have explained it so many times that I think you must be completely mental if you still do not get it by now! Anyways, I feel really sorry for those dudes! I have never felt that way about being single. I would much rather be free and single, than end up stuck with a completely whacked out woman, like so many men are stuck with today. Sure, you can leave them, but the damage is done by then and they are like a wrecking ball when they go. As the saying goes, "Do not stick your dick in crazy!". That is not to say that many men these days are much different. Both sides are full of complete basket cases. But for me, I honestly did not even bother with women for a long ass time after my ex fiancée. Even now, I barely ever bother. Just rub one out and get on with your day and life, you will be much happier, lol! Do not get me wrong, I love sex and have a high drive, but I am also not a mindless animal who cannot control themselves. Now if I found the right woman, then awesome! Party time! But otherwise, meh, it is not even worth the time to me. I am an odd one though, there is no denying that, lol! If I can eat the same food every day for years and have a Johnny Cash type of all black, minimalist wardrobe, then I think it is safe to say that I do not really mind being single for any length of time. I would say that it gets me down for maybe two weeks worth of time out of the entire year, because everyone wants to have someone. That is like a blip on my radar though. Ok, now back to the subject at hand!
I know this next one might offend plenty of people, but that is life. Claiming moral superiority is very hypocritical when you love tons of morally bankrupt things like, Eminem, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, 50 Shades of Grey and American Horror Story. See first paragraph for my reaction to that. It is funny how people will care about the quality of food that they put into their body, but not the quality of content that they put into their mind. You are what you eat and you are what you watch. Speaking of which, how about the added hypocrisy of being anti-hunting and eating meat, while still eating meat. I also love how those same people will profess how nice and wonderful they are, while at the same time having such a disdain for the majority of people who do not, and will never, agree with them.
Before I get into the other things that I will unabashedly judge you to be a disgusting degenerate for believing, let me mention the one that too many people are guilty of doing. Hannah has also said the typical dehumanizing thing about people online not mattering, because it is not "real life". Now do not misunderstand, that mentality does not shock me at all, but I also have no problem telling you what a fucked human being you are for thinking that way. You have been desensitized from having any compassion. It is sad and pathetic. If you think that way, or even just lie to me that you think that way, then do not expect me to care about you anymore. My dark side hopes that people like you will suffer some horrible agonizing fate for being such utter pieces of shit. My good side hopes that you reform your ways and make amends to the people you have seriously hurt. Basically, like a recovering alcoholic will go around making amends. Not apologizing. Making amends. No matter how many of you do not give a fuck, beat me down, or laugh at me for saying so, [I Will Never Let You Win] by bringing me down to your pathetic level. Again, you are broken in the head if you think that way, then try to lecture me about morals.
As I mentioned earlier, another hypocritical moral shaming thing that feminazis love to do, is to bring your Mother into it. Yes, she actually [Said This To Me], trying to make me feel ashamed. If you base your life on what your Mother finds acceptable, then you are one sad, immature individual. As I told her, my Mother, and much of my family, is ultra conservative. If I lived by their views, then I would not even be watching porn, or even be speaking to someone like Hannah. Simply put, you are not even your own person if you let your family dictate what you do. Also, how stupid are the laws when they say that 16 is the age of consent for sex, but if you flip on a camera and share it, then that is criminal, lol! That would be like saying that you can drink alcohol at 18 in the USA, but if you film and share it before 21, then you are going to jail, lol! Now you could say that professional porn is different, since it involves signing contracts, but it should not be a problem even then, as long as it is done with parental consent, or if they are emancipated. But apparently to her, if it is law, then you are immoral for breaking it. Tell that to the people in the several states where anal sex was/is illegal, lmao! No, as MLK once said, "One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.". It should be obvious to anyone, that law does not equal morality. Hannah, you should really get that "Stay free" tattoo lasered off, because it is a joke at this point.
Now would I say that I am morally superior? No, when you believe that you are superior, you go around doing exactly what Hannah has done, by berating people with insults and judgmental condescension. We all judge things and that is perfectly acceptable, but it becomes a problem when you look down on others as being inferior. Especially when the moral hypocrisy is so very obvious. As she wrote me off for being so "vile", I very much felt her looking down on me from her little throne. Obviously, I have judged her to be quite immoral, but unlike her, many of those aforementioned things did not prevent me from getting along with her. That is the Libertarian in me. I do not have to agree with your views to get along with you. But, I do have my moral limits. Once you drop too low, we are just done. So I steer clear of people as extreme as Hannah, because all they inevitably do is bring you down with them. Moderates? We can hang. Extremists? Get bent. Some people say that this whole political left vs right divide is an engineered manipulation that we can simply overcome and unite. Sorry, you are only half right. What has been engineered is to turn the left into radical extremists. The natural result of that is division, because conservatives and classical liberals both hate socialism/communism/marxism. Read the old [Communist Goals], which are derived from research on Communism, and see how much of it reflects your modern, so-called liberalism. There will be no unity with people whose views are the antithesis to our entire way of life! Anyways, now obviously, some people are far more moral than others, but I also know that we all have our faults and that we can all improve. I simply think that it is downright laughable for Hannah to even attempt to claim moral superiority, when she has no room whatsoever to talk about it.
More to come!